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Posted: Tue Mar 21, 2006 14:53
by martignasse
comment and questions :

in 2), the user add some grid part in the imageset after he has chosen a widget, but the imageset concept is completly independant of any widget !
it's a risk of losing the user.

i like the idea of gridpart, but you don't speak about how you manage the mane of those images part.

the looknfeel part is very more complex, even if you just manage the graphic aspect (like it seem's you do), there is all the differents state (disabled, mouse overed...), there is some required and optionnal part, and some imagery section and named area...
but i like the idea too.

Posted: Tue Mar 21, 2006 15:04
by centipede
Now, if the choice was mine, I would concentrate on getting a speedy workflow for most uses. Whoever makes this tool should do something very NOT foresighted to put himself in a position where generalisation was impossible.

There's nothing wrong in making a ton of imagery-parts completely detached from the remaining part of the process. That's just an interface thing: The user sticks to the Imagery page all the time after having checked a checkbox on the Project page: "I'll just be editing .imageset files... Promise!"

Posted: Tue Mar 21, 2006 19:17
by centipede
No code changes? Good then, work on this tool continues at the rate of an hour a day. A few large controls will handle most interaction and I will try to push all data handling into one object. Dixi.

Posted: Wed Mar 22, 2006 11:19
by martignasse
look on you'r app more deeply yesterday, and i understood the workflow you expose. :)

so, if i understand correctly, you make an utility completly artist oriented, with all references to xml files completly masked, wich is a good.

it's, in a certain way, a similar approach to baxissimo who want to make a simplified interface for cegui to essentialy speedup the workflow.

in comparaison, the imageset i try to do is more general, the same way the the editor is, like some fondation utility to manage the xml dependencies files.

these two visions are complementary , i think.

Posted: Wed Mar 22, 2006 14:53
by centipede
Not sure what exactly it will turn out to be. Here I have started to move things into their correct place: ...

Now Imageset and Looknfeel are two completely unrelated phenomena. I started to flesh out the looknfeel interface a bit. Each WidgetLook from the list to the left contains a bunch of ImagerySections, StateImagery and other things (Child-elements, Properties etc.)

The user-friendly part comes into play when the program try to supply as many reasonable default values as possible. That's why it contains a long list of names in the Imageset list already, even though the user would might have chosen never to user all of them.

Posted: Thu Mar 23, 2006 10:09
by martignasse
for those how want an early test

here is the link :

actually, just load imageset is possible, and the grid and view arent synchorised.

Posted: Fri Mar 24, 2006 20:58
by centipede
I could run neither Testaskin or your tool from the zip file you posted. Windows wasn't particular helpful either. It just flashed a messagebox saying that the program couldn't start because of a bad program-configuration. Don't know what that means. There's no wx dll. Could that be it?

Posted: Sat Mar 25, 2006 07:54
by martignasse
I could run neither Testaskin or your tool from the zip file you posted.
There's no wx dll. Could that be it?
i don't think, wxwidgets is staticly linked in the exe. but it's compiled with VC8 so maybe runtime dll are missing. should be down loaded from the net

Posted: Sat Mar 25, 2006 08:00
by centipede
I've got vc7.1 installed, but don't know if I have anything supplying me with a vc8 runtime. Could you post a link to it?

Posted: Sat Mar 25, 2006 08:14
by martignasse
i'm not at my dev computer, but found them :)
try this

Posted: Sat Mar 25, 2006 10:03
by centipede
No go. Please anybody report if you have success! No reason to worry martignasse if it's just my computer having a bad dll day.

Posted: Sat Mar 25, 2006 10:19
by martignasse
bouuu :cry:

i tested here at work on two differents computer and one has the same issue and the other is ok (i think it's because it has VS8Express installed).
... i search.

Posted: Sat Mar 25, 2006 10:47
by tuan kuranes
Running a VC++ 2005 app on another computer :

Posted: Sat Mar 25, 2006 11:12
by martignasse
yep, just crawling the web and found this "crt and manifest MS hell". :evil:

i didn't exactly used this solution

i updated the zip with a private manifest (and a dll i forgot).

so, if you want to try again, centipede.

Posted: Sat Mar 25, 2006 11:39
by martignasse
finally updated the CEImagesetEditor.zipwith a newer exe and all the necessary dlls (and the manifest file too).

So, normally, it's "unzip and run".