Performance drop - many containers

[bomkallo]

I have no errors, I use cegui 8.4.
I've just put this code into CEED which partially shows what is happening (i've never run ceed without error with layoutcontainers), but after injecting the sample code from above CEED renders all these windows in one place, as layout positioning is not working there. (maybe no timepulse)
But, if layout containers behave as they do in ceed then on my renderer I see it looking as I want; but in fact, everything is rendered all the time to give me only the look. If I comment out time-pulse injections i will watch exactly same behavior the ceed gives and I will find rendering dead.

[lucebac]

Of course rendering dies when you stop injecting timepulses since CEGUI thinks no time passed. You NEED to inject timepulses to have at least something rendered. Also, please post your CEGUI.log file.

[bomkallo]

bah...

Here's the log

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04/01/2016 22:51:01 (Std)    [ImageManager] Created image: 'TaharezLook/VertSliderThumbHover' (06238B58) of type: BasicImage
04/01/2016 22:51:01 (Std)    [ImageManager] Created image: 'TaharezLook/MiniHorzScrollBarSegment' (06237690) of type: BasicImage
04/01/2016 22:51:01 (Std)    [ImageManager] Created image: 'TaharezLook/MiniHorzScrollThumbNormal' (06238C70) of type: BasicImage
04/01/2016 22:51:01 (Std)    [ImageManager] Created image: 'TaharezLook/MiniHorzScrollThumbLeftNormal' (06257318) of type: BasicImage
04/01/2016 22:51:01 (Std)    [ImageManager] Created image: 'TaharezLook/MiniHorzScrollThumbMiddleNormal' (062565F8) of type: BasicImage
04/01/2016 22:51:01 (Std)    [ImageManager] Created image: 'TaharezLook/MiniHorzScrollThumbRightNormal' (06256A58) of type: BasicImage
04/01/2016 22:51:01 (Std)    [ImageManager] Created image: 'TaharezLook/MiniHorzScrollThumbHover' (06257890) of type: BasicImage
04/01/2016 22:51:01 (Std)    [ImageManager] Created image: 'TaharezLook/MiniHorzScrollThumbLeftHover' (06256EB8) of type: BasicImage
04/01/2016 22:51:01 (Std)    [ImageManager] Created image: 'TaharezLook/MiniHorzScrollThumbMiddleHover' (06256198) of type: BasicImage
04/01/2016 22:51:01 (Std)    [ImageManager] Created image: 'TaharezLook/MiniHorzScrollThumbRightHover' (06256710) of type: BasicImage
04/01/2016 22:51:01 (Std)    [ImageManager] Created image: 'TaharezLook/MiniHorzScrollLeftNormal' (062579A8) of type: BasicImage
04/01/2016 22:51:01 (Std)    [ImageManager] Created image: 'TaharezLook/MiniHorzScrollRightNormal' (06256080) of type: BasicImage
04/01/2016 22:51:01 (Std)    [ImageManager] Created image: 'TaharezLook/MiniHorzScrollLeftHover' (06255F68) of type: BasicImage
04/01/2016 22:51:01 (Std)    [ImageManager] Created image: 'TaharezLook/MiniHorzScrollRightHover' (06256FD0) of type: BasicImage
04/01/2016 22:51:01 (Std)    [ImageManager] Created image: 'TaharezLook/ListboxLeft' (06257430) of type: BasicImage
04/01/2016 22:51:01 (Std)    [ImageManager] Created image: 'TaharezLook/ListboxRight' (06256DA0) of type: BasicImage
04/01/2016 22:51:01 (Std)    [ImageManager] Created image: 'TaharezLook/ListboxTop' (06256940) of type: BasicImage
04/01/2016 22:51:01 (Std)    [ImageManager] Created image: 'TaharezLook/ListboxBottom' (06257200) of type: BasicImage
04/01/2016 22:51:01 (Std)    [ImageManager] Created image: 'TaharezLook/ListboxTopLeft' (06255C20) of type: BasicImage
04/01/2016 22:51:01 (Std)    [ImageManager] Created image: 'TaharezLook/ListboxTopRight' (06257548) of type: BasicImage
04/01/2016 22:51:01 (Std)    [ImageManager] Created image: 'TaharezLook/ListboxBottomLeft' (06256B70) of type: BasicImage
04/01/2016 22:51:01 (Std)    [ImageManager] Created image: 'TaharezLook/ListboxBottomRight' (06257AC0) of type: BasicImage
04/01/2016 22:51:01 (Std)    [ImageManager] Created image: 'TaharezLook/ListboxBackdrop' (06255D38) of type: BasicImage
04/01/2016 22:51:01 (Std)    [ImageManager] Created image: 'TaharezLook/ListboxSelectionBrush' (062564E0) of type: BasicImage
04/01/2016 22:51:01 (Std)    [ImageManager] Created image: 'TaharezLook/ComboboxEditLeft' (06255E50) of type: BasicImage
04/01/2016 22:51:01 (Std)    [ImageManager] Created image: 'TaharezLook/ComboboxEditMiddle' (06256C88) of type: BasicImage
04/01/2016 22:51:01 (Std)    [ImageManager] Created image: 'TaharezLook/ComboboxListButtonNormal' (062562B0) of type: BasicImage
04/01/2016 22:51:01 (Std)    [ImageManager] Created image: 'TaharezLook/ComboboxListButtonHover' (062563C8) of type: BasicImage
04/01/2016 22:51:01 (Std)    [ImageManager] Created image: 'TaharezLook/ComboboxListLeft' (06256828) of type: BasicImage
04/01/2016 22:51:01 (Std)    [ImageManager] Created image: 'TaharezLook/ComboboxListRight' (06257660) of type: BasicImage
04/01/2016 22:51:01 (Std)    [ImageManager] Created image: 'TaharezLook/ComboboxListTop' (062570E8) of type: BasicImage
04/01/2016 22:51:01 (Std)    [ImageManager] Created image: 'TaharezLook/ComboboxListBottom' (06257778) of type: BasicImage
04/01/2016 22:51:01 (Std)    [ImageManager] Created image: 'TaharezLook/ComboboxListTopLeft' (0625D790) of type: BasicImage
04/01/2016 22:51:01 (Std)    [ImageManager] Created image: 'TaharezLook/ComboboxListTopRight' (0625D560) of type: BasicImage
04/01/2016 22:51:01 (Std)    [ImageManager] Created image: 'TaharezLook/ComboboxListBottomLeft' (0625D100) of type: BasicImage
04/01/2016 22:51:01 (Std)    [ImageManager] Created image: 'TaharezLook/ComboboxListBottomRight' (0625BF80) of type: BasicImage
04/01/2016 22:51:01 (Std)    [ImageManager] Created image: 'TaharezLook/ComboboxListBackdrop' (0625D330) of type: BasicImage
04/01/2016 22:51:01 (Std)    [ImageManager] Created image: 'TaharezLook/ComboboxSelectionBrush' (0625C1B0) of type: BasicImage
04/01/2016 22:51:01 (Std)    [ImageManager] Created image: 'TaharezLook/ComboboxDividerLeft' (0625C2C8) of type: BasicImage
04/01/2016 22:51:01 (Std)    [ImageManager] Created image: 'TaharezLook/ComboboxDividerMiddle' (0625C958) of type: BasicImage
04/01/2016 22:51:01 (Std)    [ImageManager] Created image: 'TaharezLook/ComboboxDividerRight' (0625C3E0) of type: BasicImage
04/01/2016 22:51:01 (Std)    [ImageManager] Created image: 'TaharezLook/HeaderBarBackdropNormal' (0625D448) of type: BasicImage
04/01/2016 22:51:01 (Std)    [ImageManager] Created image: 'TaharezLook/HeaderBarBackdropHover' (0625C098) of type: BasicImage
04/01/2016 22:51:01 (Std)    [ImageManager] Created image: 'TaharezLook/HeaderBarSplitterNormal' (0625CA70) of type: BasicImage
04/01/2016 22:51:01 (Std)    [ImageManager] Created image: 'TaharezLook/HeaderBarSplitterHover' (0625C4F8) of type: BasicImage
04/01/2016 22:51:01 (Std)    [ImageManager] Created image: 'TaharezLook/HeaderBarSortUp' (0625D678) of type: BasicImage
04/01/2016 22:51:01 (Std)    [ImageManager] Created image: 'TaharezLook/HeaderBarSortDown' (0625D218) of type: BasicImage
04/01/2016 22:51:01 (Std)    [ImageManager] Created image: 'TaharezLook/MultiListLeft' (0625D8A8) of type: BasicImage
04/01/2016 22:51:01 (Std)    [ImageManager] Created image: 'TaharezLook/MultiListRight' (0625BC38) of type: BasicImage
04/01/2016 22:51:01 (Std)    [ImageManager] Created image: 'TaharezLook/MultiListTop' (0625C610) of type: BasicImage
04/01/2016 22:51:01 (Std)    [ImageManager] Created image: 'TaharezLook/MultiListBottom' (0625BD50) of type: BasicImage
04/01/2016 22:51:01 (Std)    [ImageManager] Created image: 'TaharezLook/MultiListTopLeft' (0625DAD8) of type: BasicImage
04/01/2016 22:51:01 (Std)    [ImageManager] Created image: 'TaharezLook/MultiListTopRight' (0625CDB8) of type: BasicImage
04/01/2016 22:51:01 (Std)    [ImageManager] Created image: 'TaharezLook/MultiListBottomLeft' (0625CB88) of type: BasicImage
04/01/2016 22:51:01 (Std)    [ImageManager] Created image: 'TaharezLook/MultiListBottomRight' (0625CFE8) of type: BasicImage
04/01/2016 22:51:01 (Std)    [ImageManager] Created image: 'TaharezLook/MultiListBackdrop' (0625C728) of type: BasicImage
04/01/2016 22:51:01 (Std)    [ImageManager] Created image: 'TaharezLook/MultiListSelectionBrush' (0625BE68) of type: BasicImage
04/01/2016 22:51:01 (Std)    [ImageManager] Created image: 'TaharezLook/AltProgressLeft' (0625C840) of type: BasicImage
04/01/2016 22:51:01 (Std)    [ImageManager] Created image: 'TaharezLook/AltProgressMiddle' (0625D9C0) of type: BasicImage
04/01/2016 22:51:01 (Std)    [ImageManager] Created image: 'TaharezLook/AltProgressRight' (0625CCA0) of type: BasicImage
04/01/2016 22:51:01 (Std)    [ImageManager] Created image: 'TaharezLook/AltProgressQuarter' (0625CED0) of type: BasicImage
04/01/2016 22:51:01 (Std)    [ImageManager] Created image: 'TaharezLook/AltProgressHalf' (062638C0) of type: BasicImage
04/01/2016 22:51:01 (Std)    [ImageManager] Created image: 'TaharezLook/AltProgressLight1' (06261E80) of type: BasicImage
04/01/2016 22:51:01 (Std)    [ImageManager] Created image: 'TaharezLook/AltProgressLight2' (06262A88) of type: BasicImage
04/01/2016 22:51:01 (Std)    [ImageManager] Created image: 'TaharezLook/AltProgressLight3' (062620B0) of type: BasicImage
04/01/2016 22:51:01 (Std)    [ImageManager] Created image: 'TaharezLook/AltProgressLight4' (06263690) of type: BasicImage
04/01/2016 22:51:01 (Std)    [ImageManager] Created image: 'TaharezLook/AltProgressLight5' (062621C8) of type: BasicImage
04/01/2016 22:51:01 (Std)    [ImageManager] Created image: 'TaharezLook/AltProgressLight6' (06262858) of type: BasicImage
04/01/2016 22:51:01 (Std)    [ImageManager] Created image: 'TaharezLook/AltProgressLight7' (06261C50) of type: BasicImage
04/01/2016 22:51:01 (Std)    [ImageManager] Created image: 'TaharezLook/AltProgressLight8' (06263460) of type: BasicImage
04/01/2016 22:51:01 (Std)    [ImageManager] Created image: 'TaharezLook/AltProgressLight9' (06261D68) of type: BasicImage
04/01/2016 22:51:01 (Std)    [ImageManager] Created image: 'TaharezLook/AltProgressLight10' (06263578) of type: BasicImage
04/01/2016 22:51:01 (Std)    [ImageManager] Created image: 'TaharezLook/CloseButtonNormal' (06261F98) of type: BasicImage
04/01/2016 22:51:01 (Std)    [ImageManager] Created image: 'TaharezLook/CloseButtonHover' (062639D8) of type: BasicImage
04/01/2016 22:51:01 (Std)    [ImageManager] Created image: 'TaharezLook/CloseButtonPressed' (06262CB8) of type: BasicImage
04/01/2016 22:51:01 (Std)    [ImageManager] Created image: 'TaharezLook/NewCloseButtonNormal' (06262740) of type: BasicImage
04/01/2016 22:51:01 (Std)    [ImageManager] Created image: 'TaharezLook/NewCloseButtonHover' (062622E0) of type: BasicImage
04/01/2016 22:51:01 (Std)    [ImageManager] Created image: 'TaharezLook/NewCloseButtonPressed' (06262BA0) of type: BasicImage
04/01/2016 22:51:01 (Std)    [ImageManager] Created image: 'TaharezLook/MultiLineEditboxLeft' (062623F8) of type: BasicImage
04/01/2016 22:51:01 (Std)    [ImageManager] Created image: 'TaharezLook/MultiLineEditboxRight' (06262510) of type: BasicImage
04/01/2016 22:51:01 (Std)    [ImageManager] Created image: 'TaharezLook/MultiLineEditboxTop' (06262970) of type: BasicImage
04/01/2016 22:51:01 (Std)    [ImageManager] Created image: 'TaharezLook/MultiLineEditboxBottom' (06263AF0) of type: BasicImage
04/01/2016 22:51:01 (Std)    [ImageManager] Created image: 'TaharezLook/MultiLineEditboxTopLeft' (06262DD0) of type: BasicImage
04/01/2016 22:51:01 (Std)    [ImageManager] Created image: 'TaharezLook/MultiLineEditboxTopRight' (06262EE8) of type: BasicImage
04/01/2016 22:51:01 (Std)    [ImageManager] Created image: 'TaharezLook/MultiLineEditboxBottomLeft' (06262628) of type: BasicImage
04/01/2016 22:51:01 (Std)    [ImageManager] Created image: 'TaharezLook/MultiLineEditboxBottomRight' (06263000) of type: BasicImage
04/01/2016 22:51:01 (Std)    [ImageManager] Created image: 'TaharezLook/MultiLineEditboxBackdrop' (06263118) of type: BasicImage
04/01/2016 22:51:01 (Std)    [ImageManager] Created image: 'TaharezLook/MultiLineEditboxSelectionBrush' (06263230) of type: BasicImage
04/01/2016 22:51:01 (Std)    [ImageManager] Created image: 'TaharezLook/MouseTarget' (06263348) of type: BasicImage
04/01/2016 22:51:01 (Std)    [ImageManager] Created image: 'TaharezLook/MouseArrow' (062637A8) of type: BasicImage
04/01/2016 22:51:01 (Std)    [ImageManager] Created image: 'TaharezLook/MouseMoveCursor' (0626BEE0) of type: BasicImage
04/01/2016 22:51:01 (Std)    [ImageManager] Created image: 'TaharezLook/MouseNoSoCursor' (0626BCB0) of type: BasicImage
04/01/2016 22:51:01 (Std)    [ImageManager] Created image: 'TaharezLook/MouseEsWeCursor' (0626AC48) of type: BasicImage
04/01/2016 22:51:01 (Std)    [ImageManager] Created image: 'TaharezLook/MouseNeSwCursor' (0626AF90) of type: BasicImage
04/01/2016 22:51:01 (Std)    [ImageManager] Created image: 'TaharezLook/MouseNwSeCursor' (0626B620) of type: BasicImage
04/01/2016 22:51:01 (Std)    [ImageManager] Created image: 'TaharezLook/MouseTextBar' (0626A5B8) of type: BasicImage
04/01/2016 22:51:01 (Std)    [ImageManager] Created image: 'TaharezLook/TabHorizontalFiller' (0626A158) of type: BasicImage
04/01/2016 22:51:01 (Std)    [ImageManager] Created image: 'TaharezLook/TabContentPaneUpperLeft' (0626B1C0) of type: BasicImage
04/01/2016 22:51:01 (Std)    [ImageManager] Created image: 'TaharezLook/TabContentPaneUpper' (0626B0A8) of type: BasicImage
04/01/2016 22:51:01 (Std)    [ImageManager] Created image: 'TaharezLook/TabContentPaneUpperRight' (0626B968) of type: BasicImage
04/01/2016 22:51:01 (Std)    [ImageManager] Created image: 'TaharezLook/TabContentPaneLeft' (0626A040) of type: BasicImage
04/01/2016 22:51:01 (Std)    [ImageManager] Created image: 'TaharezLook/TabContentPaneRight' (0626A4A0) of type: BasicImage
04/01/2016 22:51:01 (Std)    [ImageManager] Created image: 'TaharezLook/TabContentPaneLower' (0626BDC8) of type: BasicImage
04/01/2016 22:51:01 (Std)    [ImageManager] Created image: 'TaharezLook/TabContentPaneLowerLeft' (0626BA80) of type: BasicImage
04/01/2016 22:51:01 (Std)    [ImageManager] Created image: 'TaharezLook/TabContentPaneLowerRight' (0626B2D8) of type: BasicImage
04/01/2016 22:51:01 (Std)    [ImageManager] Created image: 'TaharezLook/TabContentPaneMiddle' (0626B508) of type: BasicImage
04/01/2016 22:51:01 (Std)    [ImageManager] Created image: 'TaharezLook/TabButtonScrollLeftNormal' (0626AD60) of type: BasicImage
04/01/2016 22:51:01 (Std)    [ImageManager] Created image: 'TaharezLook/TabButtonScrollRightNormal' (0626A270) of type: BasicImage
04/01/2016 22:51:01 (Std)    [ImageManager] Created image: 'TaharezLook/TabButtonScrollLeftHover' (0626A388) of type: BasicImage
04/01/2016 22:51:01 (Std)    [ImageManager] Created image: 'TaharezLook/TabButtonScrollRightHover' (0626BB98) of type: BasicImage
04/01/2016 22:51:01 (Std)    [ImageManager] Created image: 'TaharezLook/TabButtonLeftNormal' (0626AE78) of type: BasicImage
04/01/2016 22:51:01 (Std)    [ImageManager] Created image: 'TaharezLook/TabButtonRightNormal' (0626A6D0) of type: BasicImage
04/01/2016 22:51:01 (Std)    [ImageManager] Created image: 'TaharezLook/TabButtonUpperNormal' (0626A7E8) of type: BasicImage
04/01/2016 22:51:01 (Std)    [ImageManager] Created image: 'TaharezLook/TabButtonLowerNormal' (0626A900) of type: BasicImage
04/01/2016 22:51:01 (Std)    [ImageManager] Created image: 'TaharezLook/TabButtonUpperLeftNormal' (0626AA18) of type: BasicImage
04/01/2016 22:51:01 (Std)    [ImageManager] Created image: 'TaharezLook/TabButtonUpperLeft2Normal' (0626B3F0) of type: BasicImage
04/01/2016 22:51:01 (Std)    [ImageManager] Created image: 'TaharezLook/TabButtonUpperRightNormal' (0626AB30) of type: BasicImage
04/01/2016 22:51:01 (Std)    [ImageManager] Created image: 'TaharezLook/TabButtonLowerLeftNormal' (0626B738) of type: BasicImage
04/01/2016 22:51:01 (Std)    [ImageManager] Created image: 'TaharezLook/TabButtonLowerRightNormal' (0626B850) of type: BasicImage
04/01/2016 22:51:01 (Std)    [ImageManager] Created image: 'TaharezLook/TabButtonLowerRight2Normal' (0626EA28) of type: BasicImage
04/01/2016 22:51:01 (Std)    [ImageManager] Created image: 'TaharezLook/TabButtonMiddleNormal' (0626E398) of type: BasicImage
04/01/2016 22:51:01 (Std)    [ImageManager] Created image: 'TaharezLook/TabButtonLeftSelected' (0626E4B0) of type: BasicImage
04/01/2016 22:51:01 (Std)    [ImageManager] Created image: 'TaharezLook/TabButtonRightSelected' (0626FCC0) of type: BasicImage
04/01/2016 22:51:01 (Std)    [ImageManager] Created image: 'TaharezLook/TabButtonUpperSelected' (0626ED70) of type: BasicImage
04/01/2016 22:51:01 (Std)    [ImageManager] Created image: 'TaharezLook/TabButtonLowerSelected' (0626E910) of type: BasicImage
04/01/2016 22:51:01 (Std)    [ImageManager] Created image: 'TaharezLook/TabButtonUpperLeftSelected' (0626FDD8) of type: BasicImage
04/01/2016 22:51:01 (Std)    [ImageManager] Created image: 'TaharezLook/TabButtonUpperRightSelected' (0626EB40) of type: BasicImage
04/01/2016 22:51:01 (Std)    [ImageManager] Created image: 'TaharezLook/TabButtonLowerLeftSelected' (0626EC58) of type: BasicImage
04/01/2016 22:51:01 (Std)    [ImageManager] Created image: 'TaharezLook/TabButtonLowerRightSelected' (0626F978) of type: BasicImage
04/01/2016 22:51:01 (Std)    [ImageManager] Created image: 'TaharezLook/TabButtonMiddleSelected' (0626E168) of type: BasicImage
04/01/2016 22:51:01 (Std)    [ImageManager] Created image: 'TaharezLook/TooltipTopLeft' (0626EE88) of type: BasicImage
04/01/2016 22:51:01 (Std)    [ImageManager] Created image: 'TaharezLook/TooltipTopRight' (0626E5C8) of type: BasicImage
04/01/2016 22:51:01 (Std)    [ImageManager] Created image: 'TaharezLook/TooltipBottomLeft' (0626E6E0) of type: BasicImage
04/01/2016 22:51:01 (Std)    [ImageManager] Created image: 'TaharezLook/TooltipBottomRight' (0626EFA0) of type: BasicImage
04/01/2016 22:51:01 (Std)    [ImageManager] Created image: 'TaharezLook/TooltipLeftEdge' (0626F1D0) of type: BasicImage
04/01/2016 22:51:01 (Std)    [ImageManager] Created image: 'TaharezLook/TooltipRightEdge' (0626FA90) of type: BasicImage
04/01/2016 22:51:01 (Std)    [ImageManager] Created image: 'TaharezLook/TooltipTopEdge' (0626FEF0) of type: BasicImage
04/01/2016 22:51:01 (Std)    [ImageManager] Created image: 'TaharezLook/TooltipBottomEdge' (0626F0B8) of type: BasicImage
04/01/2016 22:51:01 (Std)    [ImageManager] Created image: 'TaharezLook/TooltipMiddle' (0626E7F8) of type: BasicImage
04/01/2016 22:51:01 (Std)    [ImageManager] Created image: 'TaharezLook/MenuTopLeft' (0626F630) of type: BasicImage
04/01/2016 22:51:01 (Std)    [ImageManager] Created image: 'TaharezLook/MenuTopRight' (0626F2E8) of type: BasicImage
04/01/2016 22:51:01 (Std)    [ImageManager] Created image: 'TaharezLook/MenuBottomLeft' (0626F400) of type: BasicImage
04/01/2016 22:51:01 (Std)    [ImageManager] Created image: 'TaharezLook/MenuBottomRight' (0626E050) of type: BasicImage
04/01/2016 22:51:01 (Std)    [ImageManager] Created image: 'TaharezLook/MenuLeft' (0626F518) of type: BasicImage
04/01/2016 22:51:01 (Std)    [ImageManager] Created image: 'TaharezLook/MenuRight' (0626F748) of type: BasicImage
04/01/2016 22:51:01 (Std)    [ImageManager] Created image: 'TaharezLook/MenuTop' (0626F860) of type: BasicImage
04/01/2016 22:51:01 (Std)    [ImageManager] Created image: 'TaharezLook/MenuBottom' (0626FBA8) of type: BasicImage
04/01/2016 22:51:01 (Std)    [ImageManager] Created image: 'TaharezLook/MenuMiddle' (0626E280) of type: BasicImage
04/01/2016 22:51:01 (Std)    [ImageManager] Created image: 'TaharezLook/PopupMenuFrameTopLeft' (06273DE8) of type: BasicImage
04/01/2016 22:51:01 (Std)    [ImageManager] Created image: 'TaharezLook/PopupMenuFrameTopRight' (06273F00) of type: BasicImage
04/01/2016 22:51:01 (Std)    [ImageManager] Created image: 'TaharezLook/PopupMenuFrameBottomLeft' (06272C68) of type: BasicImage
04/01/2016 22:51:01 (Std)    [ImageManager] Created image: 'TaharezLook/PopupMenuFrameBottomRight' (06273AA0) of type: BasicImage
04/01/2016 22:51:01 (Std)    [ImageManager] Created image: 'TaharezLook/PopupMenuFrameLeft' (062732F8) of type: BasicImage
04/01/2016 22:51:01 (Std)    [ImageManager] Created image: 'TaharezLook/PopupMenuFrameRight' (062725D8) of type: BasicImage
04/01/2016 22:51:01 (Std)    [ImageManager] Created image: 'TaharezLook/PopupMenuFrameTop' (06272178) of type: BasicImage
04/01/2016 22:51:01 (Std)    [ImageManager] Created image: 'TaharezLook/PopupMenuFrameBottom' (06273528) of type: BasicImage
04/01/2016 22:51:01 (Std)    [ImageManager] Created image: 'TaharezLook/PopupMenuMiddle' (06272290) of type: BasicImage
04/01/2016 22:51:01 (Std)    [ImageManager] Created image: 'TaharezLook/PopupMenuArrowRight' (06273410) of type: BasicImage
04/01/2016 22:51:01 (Std)    [ImageManager] Created image: 'TaharezLook/PopupMenuArrowLeft' (06272B50) of type: BasicImage
04/01/2016 22:51:01 (Std)    [ImageManager] Created image: 'TaharezLook/TreeListClosed' (06273640) of type: BasicImage
04/01/2016 22:51:01 (Std)    [ImageManager] Created image: 'TaharezLook/TreeListOpened' (06273758) of type: BasicImage
04/01/2016 22:51:01 (Std)    ===== Falagard 'root' element: look and feel parsing begins =====
04/01/2016 22:51:01 (Std)    ===== Look and feel parsing completed =====
04/01/2016 22:51:01 (Std)    ===== Falagard 'root' element: look and feel parsing begins =====
04/01/2016 22:51:01 (Std)    ===== Look and feel parsing completed =====
04/01/2016 22:51:01 (Std)    No window renderer factories specified for module 'CEGUICoreWindowRendererSet' - adding all available factories...
04/01/2016 22:51:01 (Std)    Created WindowRendererFactory for 'Core/Button' WindowRenderers.
04/01/2016 22:51:01 (Std)    WindowRendererFactory 'Core/Button' added. (062845D8)
04/01/2016 22:51:01 (Std)    Created WindowRendererFactory for 'Core/Default' WindowRenderers.
04/01/2016 22:51:01 (Std)    WindowRendererFactory 'Core/Default' added. (06283E08)
04/01/2016 22:51:01 (Std)    Created WindowRendererFactory for 'Core/Editbox' WindowRenderers.
04/01/2016 22:51:01 (Std)    WindowRendererFactory 'Core/Editbox' added. (06283958)
04/01/2016 22:51:01 (Std)    Created WindowRendererFactory for 'Core/FrameWindow' WindowRenderers.
04/01/2016 22:51:01 (Std)    WindowRendererFactory 'Core/FrameWindow' added. (06283318)
04/01/2016 22:51:01 (Std)    Created WindowRendererFactory for 'Core/ItemEntry' WindowRenderers.
04/01/2016 22:51:01 (Std)    WindowRendererFactory 'Core/ItemEntry' added. (06283D40)
04/01/2016 22:51:01 (Std)    Created WindowRendererFactory for 'Core/ListHeader' WindowRenderers.
04/01/2016 22:51:01 (Std)    WindowRendererFactory 'Core/ListHeader' added. (06283ED0)
04/01/2016 22:51:01 (Std)    Created WindowRendererFactory for 'Core/ListHeaderSegment' WindowRenderers.
04/01/2016 22:51:01 (Std)    WindowRendererFactory 'Core/ListHeaderSegment' added. (062834A8)
04/01/2016 22:51:01 (Std)    Created WindowRendererFactory for 'Core/Listbox' WindowRenderers.
04/01/2016 22:51:01 (Std)    WindowRendererFactory 'Core/Listbox' added. (06283C78)
04/01/2016 22:51:01 (Std)    Created WindowRendererFactory for 'Core/Menubar' WindowRenderers.
04/01/2016 22:51:01 (Std)    WindowRendererFactory 'Core/Menubar' added. (062841F0)
04/01/2016 22:51:01 (Std)    Created WindowRendererFactory for 'Core/MenuItem' WindowRenderers.
04/01/2016 22:51:01 (Std)    WindowRendererFactory 'Core/MenuItem' added. (06284380)
04/01/2016 22:51:01 (Std)    Created WindowRendererFactory for 'Core/MultiColumnList' WindowRenderers.
04/01/2016 22:51:01 (Std)    WindowRendererFactory 'Core/MultiColumnList' added. (06284830)
04/01/2016 22:51:01 (Std)    Created WindowRendererFactory for 'Core/MultiLineEditbox' WindowRenderers.
04/01/2016 22:51:01 (Std)    WindowRendererFactory 'Core/MultiLineEditbox' added. (06284128)
04/01/2016 22:51:01 (Std)    Created WindowRendererFactory for 'Core/PopupMenu' WindowRenderers.
04/01/2016 22:51:01 (Std)    WindowRendererFactory 'Core/PopupMenu' added. (06283700)
04/01/2016 22:51:01 (Std)    Created WindowRendererFactory for 'Core/ProgressBar' WindowRenderers.
04/01/2016 22:51:01 (Std)    WindowRendererFactory 'Core/ProgressBar' added. (06284448)
04/01/2016 22:51:01 (Std)    Created WindowRendererFactory for 'Core/ScrollablePane' WindowRenderers.
04/01/2016 22:51:01 (Std)    WindowRendererFactory 'Core/ScrollablePane' added. (062837C8)
04/01/2016 22:51:01 (Std)    Created WindowRendererFactory for 'Core/Scrollbar' WindowRenderers.
04/01/2016 22:51:01 (Std)    WindowRendererFactory 'Core/Scrollbar' added. (06283890)
04/01/2016 22:51:01 (Std)    Created WindowRendererFactory for 'Core/Slider' WindowRenderers.
04/01/2016 22:51:01 (Std)    WindowRendererFactory 'Core/Slider' added. (06284510)
04/01/2016 22:51:01 (Std)    Created WindowRendererFactory for 'Core/Static' WindowRenderers.
04/01/2016 22:51:01 (Std)    WindowRendererFactory 'Core/Static' added. (06283A20)
04/01/2016 22:51:01 (Std)    Created WindowRendererFactory for 'Core/StaticImage' WindowRenderers.
04/01/2016 22:51:01 (Std)    WindowRendererFactory 'Core/StaticImage' added. (062846A0)
04/01/2016 22:51:01 (Std)    Created WindowRendererFactory for 'Core/StaticText' WindowRenderers.
04/01/2016 22:51:01 (Std)    WindowRendererFactory 'Core/StaticText' added. (06284E70)
04/01/2016 22:51:01 (Std)    Created WindowRendererFactory for 'Core/TabButton' WindowRenderers.
04/01/2016 22:51:01 (Std)    WindowRendererFactory 'Core/TabButton' added. (06284A88)
04/01/2016 22:51:01 (Std)    Created WindowRendererFactory for 'Core/TabControl' WindowRenderers.
04/01/2016 22:51:01 (Std)    WindowRendererFactory 'Core/TabControl' added. (06284F38)
04/01/2016 22:51:01 (Std)    Created WindowRendererFactory for 'Core/Titlebar' WindowRenderers.
04/01/2016 22:51:01 (Std)    WindowRendererFactory 'Core/Titlebar' added. (062849C0)
04/01/2016 22:51:01 (Std)    Created WindowRendererFactory for 'Core/ToggleButton' WindowRenderers.
04/01/2016 22:51:01 (Std)    WindowRendererFactory 'Core/ToggleButton' added. (06284B50)
04/01/2016 22:51:01 (Std)    Created WindowRendererFactory for 'Core/Tooltip' WindowRenderers.
04/01/2016 22:51:01 (Std)    WindowRendererFactory 'Core/Tooltip' added. (06284C18)
04/01/2016 22:51:01 (Std)    Created WindowRendererFactory for 'Core/ItemListbox' WindowRenderers.
04/01/2016 22:51:01 (Std)    WindowRendererFactory 'Core/ItemListbox' added. (06284CE0)
04/01/2016 22:51:01 (Std)    Created WindowRendererFactory for 'Core/Tree' WindowRenderers.
04/01/2016 22:51:01 (Std)    WindowRendererFactory 'Core/Tree' added. (06284DA8)
04/01/2016 22:51:01 (Std)    Creating falagard mapping for type 'TaharezLook/Label' using base type 'DefaultWindow', window renderer 'Core/Default' Look'N'Feel 'TaharezLook/Label' and RenderEffect ''. (00BFCD3C)
04/01/2016 22:51:01 (Std)    Creating falagard mapping for type 'TaharezLook/Button' using base type 'CEGUI/PushButton', window renderer 'Core/Button' Look'N'Feel 'TaharezLook/Button' and RenderEffect ''. (00BFCD3C)
04/01/2016 22:51:01 (Std)    Creating falagard mapping for type 'TaharezLook/Checkbox' using base type 'CEGUI/ToggleButton', window renderer 'Core/ToggleButton' Look'N'Feel 'TaharezLook/Checkbox' and RenderEffect ''. (00BFCD3C)
04/01/2016 22:51:01 (Std)    Creating falagard mapping for type 'TaharezLook/ImageButton' using base type 'CEGUI/PushButton', window renderer 'Core/Button' Look'N'Feel 'TaharezLook/ImageButton' and RenderEffect ''. (00BFCD3C)
04/01/2016 22:51:01 (Std)    Creating falagard mapping for type 'TaharezLook/RadioButton' using base type 'CEGUI/RadioButton', window renderer 'Core/ToggleButton' Look'N'Feel 'TaharezLook/RadioButton' and RenderEffect ''. (00BFCD3C)
04/01/2016 22:51:01 (Std)    Creating falagard mapping for type 'TaharezLook/FrameWindow' using base type 'CEGUI/FrameWindow', window renderer 'Core/FrameWindow' Look'N'Feel 'TaharezLook/FrameWindow' and RenderEffect ''. (00BFCD3C)
04/01/2016 22:51:01 (Std)    Creating falagard mapping for type 'TaharezLook/Titlebar' using base type 'CEGUI/Titlebar', window renderer 'Core/Titlebar' Look'N'Feel 'TaharezLook/Titlebar' and RenderEffect ''. (00BFCD3C)
04/01/2016 22:51:01 (Std)    Creating falagard mapping for type 'TaharezLook/Editbox' using base type 'CEGUI/Editbox', window renderer 'Core/Editbox' Look'N'Feel 'TaharezLook/Editbox' and RenderEffect ''. (00BFCD3C)
04/01/2016 22:51:01 (Std)    Creating falagard mapping for type 'TaharezLook/MultiLineEditbox' using base type 'CEGUI/MultiLineEditbox', window renderer 'Core/MultiLineEditbox' Look'N'Feel 'TaharezLook/MultiLineEditbox' and RenderEffect ''. (00BFCD3C)
04/01/2016 22:51:01 (Std)    Creating falagard mapping for type 'TaharezLook/Menubar' using base type 'CEGUI/Menubar', window renderer 'Core/Menubar' Look'N'Feel 'TaharezLook/Menubar' and RenderEffect ''. (00BFCD3C)
04/01/2016 22:51:01 (Std)    Creating falagard mapping for type 'TaharezLook/PopupMenu' using base type 'CEGUI/PopupMenu', window renderer 'Core/PopupMenu' Look'N'Feel 'TaharezLook/PopupMenu' and RenderEffect ''. (00BFCD3C)
04/01/2016 22:51:01 (Std)    Creating falagard mapping for type 'TaharezLook/MenuItem' using base type 'CEGUI/MenuItem', window renderer 'Core/MenuItem' Look'N'Feel 'TaharezLook/MenuItem' and RenderEffect ''. (00BFCD3C)
04/01/2016 22:51:01 (Std)    Creating falagard mapping for type 'TaharezLook/AlternateProgressBar' using base type 'CEGUI/ProgressBar', window renderer 'Core/ProgressBar' Look'N'Feel 'TaharezLook/AltProgressBar' and RenderEffect ''. (00BFCD3C)
04/01/2016 22:51:01 (Std)    Creating falagard mapping for type 'TaharezLook/ProgressBar' using base type 'CEGUI/ProgressBar', window renderer 'Core/ProgressBar' Look'N'Feel 'TaharezLook/ProgressBar' and RenderEffect ''. (00BFCD3C)
04/01/2016 22:51:01 (Std)    Creating falagard mapping for type 'TaharezLook/VUMeter' using base type 'CEGUI/ProgressBar', window renderer 'Core/ProgressBar' Look'N'Feel 'TaharezLook/VUMeter' and RenderEffect ''. (00BFCD3C)
04/01/2016 22:51:01 (Std)    Creating falagard mapping for type 'TaharezLook/VerticalScrollbar' using base type 'CEGUI/Scrollbar', window renderer 'Core/Scrollbar' Look'N'Feel 'TaharezLook/VerticalScrollbar' and RenderEffect ''. (00BFCD3C)
04/01/2016 22:51:01 (Std)    Creating falagard mapping for type 'TaharezLook/HorizontalScrollbar' using base type 'CEGUI/Scrollbar', window renderer 'Core/Scrollbar' Look'N'Feel 'TaharezLook/HorizontalScrollbar' and RenderEffect ''. (00BFCD3C)
04/01/2016 22:51:01 (Std)    Creating falagard mapping for type 'TaharezLook/VerticalScrollbarThumb' using base type 'CEGUI/Thumb', window renderer 'Core/Button' Look'N'Feel 'TaharezLook/VerticalScrollbarThumb' and RenderEffect ''. (00BFCD3C)
04/01/2016 22:51:01 (Std)    Creating falagard mapping for type 'TaharezLook/HorizontalScrollbarThumb' using base type 'CEGUI/Thumb', window renderer 'Core/Button' Look'N'Feel 'TaharezLook/HorizontalScrollbarThumb' and RenderEffect ''. (00BFCD3C)
04/01/2016 22:51:01 (Std)    Creating falagard mapping for type 'TaharezLook/LargeVerticalScrollbar' using base type 'CEGUI/Scrollbar', window renderer 'Core/Scrollbar' Look'N'Feel 'TaharezLook/LargeVerticalScrollbar' and RenderEffect ''. (00BFCD3C)
04/01/2016 22:51:01 (Std)    Creating falagard mapping for type 'TaharezLook/LargeVerticalScrollbarThumb' using base type 'CEGUI/Thumb', window renderer 'Core/Button' Look'N'Feel 'TaharezLook/LargeVerticalScrollbarThumb' and RenderEffect ''. (00BFCD3C)
04/01/2016 22:51:01 (Std)    Creating falagard mapping for type 'TaharezLook/TabButton' using base type 'CEGUI/TabButton', window renderer 'Core/TabButton' Look'N'Feel 'TaharezLook/TabButton' and RenderEffect ''. (00BFCD3C)
04/01/2016 22:51:01 (Std)    Creating falagard mapping for type 'TaharezLook/TabControl' using base type 'CEGUI/TabControl', window renderer 'Core/TabControl' Look'N'Feel 'TaharezLook/TabControl' and RenderEffect ''. (00BFCD3C)
04/01/2016 22:51:01 (Std)    Creating falagard mapping for type 'TaharezLook/TabContentPane' using base type 'DefaultWindow', window renderer 'Core/Default' Look'N'Feel 'TaharezLook/TabContentPane' and RenderEffect ''. (00BFCD3C)
04/01/2016 22:51:01 (Std)    Creating falagard mapping for type 'TaharezLook/TabButtonPane' using base type 'DefaultWindow', window renderer 'Core/Default' Look'N'Feel 'TaharezLook/TabButtonPane' and RenderEffect ''. (00BFCD3C)
04/01/2016 22:51:01 (Std)    Creating falagard mapping for type 'TaharezLook/ComboDropList' using base type 'CEGUI/ComboDropList', window renderer 'Core/Listbox' Look'N'Feel 'TaharezLook/ComboDropList' and RenderEffect ''. (00BFCD3C)
04/01/2016 22:51:01 (Std)    Creating falagard mapping for type 'TaharezLook/ComboEditbox' using base type 'CEGUI/Editbox', window renderer 'Core/Editbox' Look'N'Feel 'TaharezLook/ComboEditbox' and RenderEffect ''. (00BFCD3C)
04/01/2016 22:51:01 (Std)    Creating falagard mapping for type 'TaharezLook/Combobox' using base type 'CEGUI/Combobox', window renderer 'Core/Default' Look'N'Feel 'TaharezLook/Combobox' and RenderEffect ''. (00BFCD3C)
04/01/2016 22:51:01 (Std)    Creating falagard mapping for type 'TaharezLook/Listbox' using base type 'CEGUI/Listbox', window renderer 'Core/Listbox' Look'N'Feel 'TaharezLook/Listbox' and RenderEffect ''. (00BFCD3C)
04/01/2016 22:51:01 (Std)    Creating falagard mapping for type 'TaharezLook/ListHeader' using base type 'CEGUI/ListHeader', window renderer 'Core/ListHeader' Look'N'Feel 'TaharezLook/ListHeader' and RenderEffect ''. (00BFCD3C)
04/01/2016 22:51:01 (Std)    Creating falagard mapping for type 'TaharezLook/ListHeaderSegment' using base type 'CEGUI/ListHeaderSegment', window renderer 'Core/ListHeaderSegment' Look'N'Feel 'TaharezLook/ListHeaderSegment' and RenderEffect ''. (00BFCD3C)
04/01/2016 22:51:01 (Std)    Creating falagard mapping for type 'TaharezLook/MultiColumnList' using base type 'CEGUI/MultiColumnList', window renderer 'Core/MultiColumnList' Look'N'Feel 'TaharezLook/MultiColumnList' and RenderEffect ''. (00BFCD3C)
04/01/2016 22:51:01 (Std)    Creating falagard mapping for type 'TaharezLook/Slider' using base type 'CEGUI/Slider', window renderer 'Core/Slider' Look'N'Feel 'TaharezLook/Slider' and RenderEffect ''. (00BFCD3C)
04/01/2016 22:51:01 (Std)    Creating falagard mapping for type 'TaharezLook/SliderThumb' using base type 'CEGUI/Thumb', window renderer 'Core/Button' Look'N'Feel 'TaharezLook/SliderThumb' and RenderEffect ''. (00BFCD3C)
04/01/2016 22:51:01 (Std)    Creating falagard mapping for type 'TaharezLook/ScrollablePane' using base type 'CEGUI/ScrollablePane', window renderer 'Core/ScrollablePane' Look'N'Feel 'TaharezLook/ScrollablePane' and RenderEffect ''. (00BFCD3C)
04/01/2016 22:51:01 (Std)    Creating falagard mapping for type 'TaharezLook/Spinner' using base type 'CEGUI/Spinner', window renderer 'Core/Default' Look'N'Feel 'TaharezLook/Spinner' and RenderEffect ''. (00BFCD3C)
04/01/2016 22:51:01 (Std)    Creating falagard mapping for type 'TaharezLook/Tooltip' using base type 'CEGUI/Tooltip', window renderer 'Core/Tooltip' Look'N'Feel 'TaharezLook/Tooltip' and RenderEffect ''. (00BFCD3C)
04/01/2016 22:51:01 (Std)    Creating falagard mapping for type 'TaharezLook/StaticImage' using base type 'DefaultWindow', window renderer 'Core/StaticImage' Look'N'Feel 'TaharezLook/StaticImage' and RenderEffect ''. (00BFCD3C)
04/01/2016 22:51:01 (Std)    Creating falagard mapping for type 'TaharezLook/StaticText' using base type 'DefaultWindow', window renderer 'Core/StaticText' Look'N'Feel 'TaharezLook/StaticText' and RenderEffect ''. (00BFCD3C)
04/01/2016 22:51:01 (Std)    Creating falagard mapping for type 'TaharezLook/ItemListbox' using base type 'CEGUI/ItemListbox', window renderer 'Core/ItemListbox' Look'N'Feel 'TaharezLook/ItemListbox' and RenderEffect ''. (00BFCD3C)
04/01/2016 22:51:01 (Std)    Creating falagard mapping for type 'TaharezLook/ListboxItem' using base type 'CEGUI/ItemEntry', window renderer 'Core/ItemEntry' Look'N'Feel 'TaharezLook/ListboxItem' and RenderEffect ''. (00BFCD3C)
04/01/2016 22:51:01 (Std)    Creating falagard mapping for type 'TaharezLook/GroupBox' using base type 'DefaultWindow', window renderer 'Core/Default' Look'N'Feel 'TaharezLook/GroupBox' and RenderEffect ''. (00BFCD3C)
04/01/2016 22:51:01 (Std)    Creating falagard mapping for type 'TaharezLook/Tree' using base type 'CEGUI/Tree', window renderer 'Core/Tree' Look'N'Feel 'TaharezLook/Tree' and RenderEffect ''. (00BFCD3C)
04/01/2016 22:51:01 (Std)    Creating falagard mapping for type 'Inheritence/Base' using base type 'DefaultWindow', window renderer 'Core/Default' Look'N'Feel 'Inheritence/Base' and RenderEffect ''. (00BFCD3C)
04/01/2016 22:51:01 (Std)    Creating falagard mapping for type 'Inheritence/Derived1' using base type 'DefaultWindow', window renderer 'Core/Default' Look'N'Feel 'Inheritence/Derived1' and RenderEffect ''. (00BFCD3C)
04/01/2016 22:51:01 (Std)    [Direct3D9Renderer] Created texture: _d3d9_tt_tex_0
04/01/2016 22:51:01 (Std)    [Direct3D9Renderer] Created texture: _d3d9_tt_tex_1
04/01/2016 22:51:01 (Std)    [Direct3D9Renderer] Created texture: DejaVuSans-10_auto_glyph_images_32
04/01/2016 22:51:01 (Std)    [Direct3D9Renderer] Created texture: _d3d9_tt_tex_2
04/01/2016 22:51:01 (Std)    ---- Successfully completed loading of GUI layout from 'meshEditor.layout' ----
04/01/2016 22:51:02 (Std)    [Direct3D9Renderer] Created texture: _d3d9_tt_tex_3
04/01/2016 22:51:02 (Std)    [Direct3D9Renderer] Created texture: _d3d9_tt_tex_4



[bomkallo]

Of course rendering dies when you stop injecting timepulses since CEGUI thinks no time passed. You NEED to inject timepulses to have at least something rendered. Also, please post your CEGUI.log file.

Just to fix previous posts. I wrote I am injecting time pulses, otherwise you wouldn't see the result shown on the screenshot in the beginning of this subject. I state that cegui is processing this layout same way all the time, no matter there is time pulse or not - no matter there is scrollbar pane somewhere in parent hierarchy. I even make a quick test for scrollable pane and random 150 buttons placed vertically, goes the same way.

For know I'd like to know whether you're sure that this kind of layout manipulation is wrong and whether I should implement my own scrolling system maybe? Basically I need scrollable content at most cases so it would be good to know what steps should I make to dodge situtations like this.

Now, to don't put myself into too complicated scrolling/positioning issue, maybe i'll simply roll out layoutcontainers and make kind of paging system that will brutally close this epic battle?:) As far paging is being done on websites to loose browsers then why not getting it here?:)

[lucebac]

Another idea on your performance drop:

04/01/2016 22:51:01 (Std) ---- Version: 0.8.4 (Build: Jan 5 2015 Debug Microsoft Windows MSVC++ Great Scott! 32 bit) ----

Have you tried release (with debug symbols) and checked if that helps? Debug mode is implicitely slower than release mode since in debug mode no optimisations are made.

[Ident]

Really now? Someone complains about Debug config performance issues? I guess this must be a C++ beginner.

It is even stated here as #1 performance complaint by noobs: https://bitbucket.org/cegui/cegui

[bomkallo]

Yea, a bit noobish but it solved the problem. I rarely go outside debug mode so huh. Thanks.

[Ident]

Alright, it is mostly the events that get slow in debug mode btw. Debug mode should really just be used to check errors and that is something CEGUi is fast enough for. Whenever it comes to actual smooth usage then you can forget Debug. There is ReleaseWithDebugSymbols which is almost as good as Debug for debugging.